John LaRoy, CEO of Apparel Redefined, chats with Rich Janor from Game Day USA, highlighting their partnership. Rich discusses the importance of teamwork, resilience, and surrounding oneself with talented individuals. Game Day USA operates baseball and softball events nationwide, emphasizing educational components and creating opportunities for athletes.
Rich shares his leadership philosophy, stressing a “we, not me” culture and the significance of treating others well. John underscores the importance of decision-making, hard work, and continuous growth.
Rich’s book, “We Not Me,” focuses on life lessons from coaching and business.
Key Highlights
• Reflecting on 20 Years of Partnership 0:53
• Challenges and Success in Business 3:57
• Game Day USA’s Mission and Impact 4:11
• Leadership Philosophy and Business Success 6:13
• Building Trust and Vendor Relationships 12:01
• The Importance of People and Teamwork 13:13
• Rich Janor’s Book and Leadership Lessons 19:43
• Key to Success: Resilience and Teamwork 21:54
• Closing Remarks and Future Plans 26:36
Presentation Transcription
Curt Anderson 00:02
Hey, John, LeRoy Apparel Redefined. How are you, my friend? What’s happening? Brother
John LaRoy 00:06
doing well? Curt, back to back to ace,
Curt Anderson 00:08
back to back, back to back. So, man, we just can’t get enough. And again, I gotta give a shout out to the studio. Like, can you what’s going on with the studio right now?
John LaRoy 00:18
I mean, again, back to Ben. Gave him his first major task, to take me out of the office and put it in here. Much better, better situation. But yeah, he’s he did a really good job. So well,
Curt Anderson 00:29
it looks, it looks phenomenal. We’re going to, we’re going to miss the laptop. So kudos. A bad little pat on the back. It looks very professional. You’re showing me up. I’ve got total studio envy right now. But let’s dive in. Man. We’ve got an incredible, wonderful guest here today. We’re talking Game Day USA with our Buddy Rich. Janor Rich, how are you? Man, what’s happening in your world?
Rich Janor 00:50
All good. Yeah, we just celebrated our 20 year anniversary as a company, and I really wanted to jump on here and make sure I thank John and Apparel Redefined and A and R before that known John for just about that number of years. And you know, they’ve got that company has been such a key part of our success, from branding and designs and everything to do with our apparel, those guys have been such a big part of it, and John in particular. So mainly wanted to jump on to start by saying thank you, and we certainly, John, appreciate the friendship and partnership over the years.
John LaRoy 01:27
Rich, yeah, I mean, I echo that. I mean, it’s amazing coming up on 20 years. I mean, it’s on 19 for me, but it’s amazing to see how you’ve grown. And thank you for the business and partnership. It’s been, it’s been, it’s been a ride, you know, and I’m not, we’re not over yet, but just to see how you guys have grown and janitor sports and after that in the game day and, you know, all the success you’ve had in coaching. I mean, we’re both baseball coaches, ran each other into each other on the field as well. Yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s hard to believe that it’s 20 years. Because if you would have said back in 2005 2006 Hey, it’s going to take 20 years to get where you’re at, I’d be like, Oh my God. But you know, it’s all about the journey. It’s not about the about the the end. So, but yeah, amazing success. So many good people that you’ve had on your team that we’re still working with. Ryan is phenomenal. And just all the Mary Kay, all the all the great people over the years that were more than just clients, you know, true friendship and then to true partnership. And that is really cool. And it was one of the real like, getting into the business, and I really, totally didn’t know what I was getting into, but being into it now for like, 20 years, it’s kind of like the last frontier of real partnership sales, right? Where it’s like, not the Amazon who’s got the cheapest and what can you do for me lately? Type stuff, where, you know, we’re invested in your business, you’re invested in our business. We win. You win. Type thing. And that’s what I really like about about this industry?
Rich Janor 03:01
Yeah, and I think no one, no one would really anticipate some of the things that came our way over 20 years from, you know, pandemic that basically shut both of our operations down, or, to an extent, shut us down, to in our event business, you know, hurricanes, natural disasters, everything that goes on there. And definitely gotta roll with the punches and keep on peddling. And I know we’ve, we’ve all done that, and I’m glad you brought up, you know, some of the people that we have, I think, you know, as we get into advice for business owners and that type of thing, I mean, just surrounding yourself, and you’ve done the same thing there, with people that are maybe smarter than you, or talented, competent, that can, that can really lead way, and then just kind of staying out of their way and not not trying to micromanage people, but, but just letting talented people do their thing. And obviously Ryan here is great. He’s been with us about 15 years. Karen, about 15 years. Mike, about 15 years. I’m kind of estimating using round numbers, but then before that, Mary Kay, Don Flynn, Mike Smith, I mean, you know that people that were just so so vested in the in the business and and really credited with, with the success of where we are right now? Yeah, absolutely.
Curt Anderson 04:11
Oh, that’s great, rich. So alright, let’s dive into a couple things. So, you know, wonderful father of three beautiful kids, Notre Dame grad, Fighting Irish, just share a little bit Game Day USA. What tell us, for folks aren’t familiar with your company? Who are you? What do you guys do? How are you making the world a better place? Yeah,
Rich Janor 04:30
so Game Day USA, we operate baseball and softball events now all around the country. Our bread and butter is sort of the is sort of the Midwest region, but so we try to identify some of the best venues around the country and then bring in athletes and coaches, teams, parents, and produce all different types of events. And a lot of our events now have kind of an educational component to it. So, you know, just trying to keep kids in sports, keep. Kids in the game, you know, find opportunities to create opportunities for athletes and families through athletics. And, you know, just kind of growing up as a kid, you know, my mentors were my coaches, my dad, who was also a coach. And you know, as a it’s hard to be a middle schooler. I’ve got a middle middle school now, a freshman in high school in my household. And those are hard, hard ages. I mean, especially now with social media and everything that goes on and and, you know, those athletic experiences really give kids confidence and allow them to kind of step into their skin and who they are. And that was certainly my experience as a kid. And so now, being able to give back and create these experiences and opportunities through athletics has been very much enjoyable.
Curt Anderson 05:44
Well, rich, let’s go here. Before we went live, you were sharing a little bit. You have a championship from 2019 as a high school coach. Just share a little bit on, on, you know, from a leadership standpoint, you know, what did it take to raise, I mean, that is so impressive. Congratulations. You know, five years ago, but congratulations. What did it take to get to that level?
Rich Janor 06:03
Yes, I, you know, I always enjoyed being a head baseball coach. Like I said, did it for 20 years, 12 years at Wheaton Saint Francis High School, and eight years at Montini Catholic. And, you know, really enjoyed the opportunity to kind of be shoulder to shoulder on a grassroots level with athletes and other coaches. And again, John and I definitely bumped into each other out there, but, yeah, you know, just trying to create a culture where, you know, especially in today’s day and age, where it’s all about, you know, bringing attention to oneself and that type of thing, but trying to create a culture where the team is more important than individual accomplishments and and I call it a we, not me, culture. But you know, if you look at pro sports today, you see, you know, everyone’s always trying to draw attention to themselves, whether it’s some kind of swag on the field or one of those giant chains around their neck, or whatever people do is draw attention to themselves. And that’s all fine, but you know, basically, the best teams are the ones that really come together, and the guys play for their teammates and not for themselves. And that was kind of the secret sauce, or the magic to that, to that 2019 team, you know, not necessarily the most talented, you know, not, not a team that’s kind of laden with division one guys or that type of thing, but, but the guys that really kind of came together and played for one another. So, you know, that’s real, real important. Well, I
Curt Anderson 07:23
love it. And I, you know, John and I always, we refer everything in life is around baseball, right, John. So it’s, you know, it’s kind of synonymous. Just share a little bit as an, you know, I believe you’re a serial entrepreneur, rich, and just share, you know, what you’ve brought to the baseball field, your leadership, coaching, how do you apply that to your business and how you’ve been successful for 20 years? Yeah. I
Rich Janor 07:44
mean, it’s a couple things, you know. Number one, you know, just being in Catholic schools for my whole, basically, my entire life, you know, it just starts with, you know, treating others the way you want to be treated that, you know, seems maybe perhaps cliche, but you know, whether, in whatever position you’re in, you know, you always think, Okay, what if I were on the other side of the of this conversation, or what or argument, or whatever might be, you know, how would that other person want to be treated? So that’s kind of a key principle, you know, and everything that we do. And then also, you know, being a Notre Dame fan, I like to quote Lou Holtz, and you know, don’t tell me how Rocky the sea is, just bring the ship to shore and one of the kind of his old school quotes and that type of thing. But, you know, today’s day and age, I mean, a lot of, lot of people like to make a lot of excuses, right? It’s always this excuse, or somebody’s somebody else’s fault that this didn’t get done, or whatever. And I think, you know, the most successful leaders are the ones that own whatever it is and and just make it happen. Leave the excuses in the rearview mirror. And you know, we have got about 20 collegiate summer interns that come into our business every year. And this is, you know, something that we hammer, you know, with our internships as well as young people are just getting their feet wet. I mean, so many excuses about so many different things. But you know, the people that can really find a way, so to speak, you know, to get it done, and whatever the job is, you know, so, so important.
Curt Anderson 09:11
Well, that’s fantastic. John, by the way. Love the Lou Holtz reference. Love those Lou Holtz quotes. Man, the guy is, you know, what a would have, just a wealth of knowledge and wisdom from Lou Holtz, John, from your perspective, how do you tie in baseball, coaching, leadership to running a successful business?
John LaRoy 09:29
I mean to me, like when we talk to young people as well. You know, we talked a little bit about this yesterday, like the the intangibles, right? The intangibles before are now rare. You know, getting people to show up on time and getting people just to be here five days a week, you know, like these things that were just understood 1015, years ago, are now harder and harder to come by. So again, bringing it down to baseball, whatever sport you know it’s. Them. You know, kids all know sports, and you know, as a baseball coach, we couldn’t start practice if the outfielders weren’t there, right? Or, you know, hey, you’re supposed to pitch today, but you know, you didn’t do your PFPs, or this just and that, like everything matters, and especially in a production environment. You know, we started with three people. We’re a little bit north of 60 now, and even as we continue to grow, every person matters. You know, like, if two people are missing, one person’s missing, someone else got to pick up that slack, right? And in a production environment, in in an economy where it’s harder and harder to find people, not only to come to work, you know, this is not a work from home scenario, either. Is game day. You can’t work from home and run a tournament, right? You gotta be there. You gotta be president. You gotta be productive by communicative, and you gotta be you gotta be valuable, right? And all of those traits, all of those things, transcribe into baseball or vice versa, right? We always say baseball is microcosm of life, and then always trying to put people in positions to succeed, right? You’re not going to go ask your guy that can’t bunt, and you know he can’t because he practices all the time. You can never get it down to bunt in a critical situation, right? My screen printer that can embroider, I’m not going to put them embroidery, but we do want to cross train. We want to do that type of stuff, but putting people in positions to succeed based on their skill set and developing other skill sets, but also knowing their potential and knowing their limitations, and putting that person which puts the team in the best position succeed is something I enjoy. And really, you know, can take that those skill sets from being a player to a coach and now to a leader of you know, the team, the GM, or whatever you want to call it. I really like that challenge.
Curt Anderson 11:45
Yeah, I totally agree. Great and great analogy, man, it’s right. You know, can’t, if somebody can’t make the ball, get the ball to first, don’t put them at shortstop for goodness gracious, right? So Rich. Let’s go back here. You talked a little bit about, you know, building that team. And, you know, as a serial entrepreneur, you know, it takes a village to raise a child. It takes a village to raise a business, of course, right? And so you’ve aligned yourself, I’m sure running events, you have to lean on a lot of people and really build trust, vendors, suppliers, that type of thing. How, how critical has been for you to have those just real heavy, heavy, you know, heavy, successful vendor relationships, you know, like with a pair of redefined how’s that been over your your 20 years? Yeah, you bring it.
Rich Janor 12:27
I mean, you absolutely have to rely on other people, and that’s, you know, as an entrepreneur, that’s one of the hardest things. So when we first started our very first season of tournaments, we had six tournaments, and I was the tournament director of all six. I was on location. I can literally see it all with my own eyes. And then there came a point in time which says, Well, hey, it’s Fourth of July weekend. We’re not just going to run one event. We’re going to run 2348, events. And you know, physically, it’s impossible for one person to be at in eight different cities. So you start to have to trust people and rely on them and and like I said on the outset, who you surround yourself with is so incredibly important. You know, I’m sitting in an office here in Naperville, and you know, most of our customers will never set foot in this office. We encounter them out at the events. And it’s our we’ll call our weekend warriors, our tournament directors, are collegiate summer interns that are the face of our company. And, you know, we do have to rely on those people, and we have to find the right ones. And if we have someone that’s not getting the job done, you know, we’ve got to get that person out as fast as we can. And and so that’s always, you know, not always easy. But you know, you bring up vendor relationships. I mean, especially with an apparel company, as you know, I own an apparel company for many years, so I was on the other side. And, you know, if, if we have an event, and the the uniforms or the T shirts or whatever is, you know, completely critical to that event aren’t there, it’s just a lot of egg on our face and a lot of apologizing and big problems. So we need vendors that, you know, we can absolutely count on to not make it. Going back to my other thing about making excuses, right? We don’t care about the freight or whatever. You know, the FedEx lost it, or UPS lost it, or whatever the case. The bottom line is, it’s gotta be there when it needs to be there. And, you know, obviously apparel redefined is the best in the business when it comes to things like that, and that’s important across, you know, all our industries, whether it’s apparel or any vendor relationship.
John LaRoy 14:28
I appreciate that. But yeah, Curt, from my my perspective too, like, as they were growing out the events and tournaments, you know, like, just thinking back to we were kids, like, it’s just so different now, you know you played your rec ball season. Everyone kind of did recall. And then if you were good enough, you would go play travel ball. And it was only maybe three or four travel teams in your area that’s completely different. Now, like the rec ball season is almost non existent in some areas, and kids are starting travel ball. But what I’m getting at is like, when you got to those events and those tournaments. It was really only like, three or four options, Caba, utrip and couple other, you know, Pony nationals and stuff. But now there’s a lot of options, but you’re still putting on a World Series every weekend, right? You know, like, some of these teams might not have the money or the funds to do four or five, six tournaments. It might only do one or two. And there’s so many variables that go into it. They’re outside your control, the weather, the talent are two, are some teams over talented or under talented? And is it a good experience from a competitive player? Are they getting them out of games? And just, you’re putting on a World Series literally every weekend, and we would be delivering to the shop in Naperville, and just the bins, you know. And I’m like, hey, this, this is an all purpose field. We got to have mounds, you know, because we got Pinto Mustang, we got all these different things. You got to bring portable mounds, the organization, and just talk about a sprint, man, because, like, you got 12 weeks here in the Midwest, you know. And the Midwest is the Midwest, from Iowa to Indiana to Wisconsin to Michigan, but there’s a lot of teams, and everyone wants to play. And it’s not always sunny, you know, and you’re starting in May, and it’s it could still be 40. You could still be 50, but that experience for that kid and that family man, it’s everything. Because the sad reality is, you know, when I, when I tried out for baseball back in 1998 in my high school, 140 kids that came out my last year of coaching, 2016 2017 I was on, you know, coaching on the varsity level, but the freshmen, we were getting 2223 you know, baseball really isn’t there’s more options. We didn’t have lacrosse when I was in high school, we didn’t have rugby, we didn’t have video gaming, you know. So it’s sad to me that people are missing out on playing the sport that I feel that teaches the most life lessons out there, learning how to fail and deal with it, because life’s about failure, but giving those kids the opportunity to feel that like world class experience, because you don’t. Most of these kids aren’t going to go play high school ball at the very minimum, right? And then even less amount of those kids are going to play college ball. So it’s just really important to deliver an A plus experience, and just look at the reviews and look at the people that are dedicated, and then again, bringing in the high schoolers and collegiate interns. It’s just a wild card. So it’s just an amazing organizational feat that you guys pull off literally every week, and now nationwide, is amazing.
Rich Janor 17:36
Yeah, the business started, John, as you know, it was May, June and July, right? You got to make hay when the sun shines, when school’s out, we’re playing ball. And now in those offs, there’s really no off season. In those off season months, we’re doing events and Major League Baseball spring training venues down in Florida and Arizona. So, you know, we’re our next stop. The Atlanta Braves spring training facility in Sarasota, Florida, will be our first event there. You know, it’s Midwestern people that say, you know, it might be a little too cold here. I don’t want to here. I don’t want to put a two sweatshirts on and go out and play well, just go down to Florida and then, you know, the other thing I wanted to bring up is, you know, we all get 1000s of emails. We get 1000s of emails. But, you know, the one that sticks with me most is we got an email about kind of a trap. Family had their had their home burned down, one of our customers, and they sent me the picture and everything like that. And it was, you know, kind of an upsetting email. And I’m trying to figure out, as I get to the bottom of it, you know, why they email us about this. And you know, as it turned out, that their their child was so distraught about not having the championship ring that he had won one of our tournaments, as well as the MVP tag that was on his bag, all of that was lost in the fire. And the family’s only request was, hey, can you you have an extra one laying around? Can you possibly send, send one so our our kid can have that? And of course, we did immediately. And you know, it just shows you know what, what these types of events mean to these young kids that might be 910, 1112, years old. You know, all of us can imagine if your house were to burn down and you’re 12 years old, the first thing you’re thinking about is, man, I really love to get that ring back, or, man, love to have that MVP tag on my bag. But, you know, that’s, that’s a real story, and that’s just a microcosm of, you know, the impact of some of these events that you know, we’re all part of. You know, you as a vendor and us as a, you know, as a tournament producer and and you know that we certainly, we take that seriously, and we know that it’s an important responsibility,
Curt Anderson 19:29
absolutely, wow, man. Hats off to you rich. I mean, that is such a powerful story right there. And when you think about the 1000s, literally 1000s of lives that you’re impacting year after year over 20 years, just, you know, big round of applause to you for what you’re doing, for young people, for communities, for the baseball business, you know, in itself, and just these life lessons that you’re that you’re bringing. I’m going to, I’m going to switch gears a little bit. You have a phenomenal book. You were just on a Notre Dame campus with a book writing. It’s called. We not me. Can you please share a little bit? What was the premise? Where did you say, like, Hey, do I have a book inside of me and walk us through that process and tell us about the book?
Rich Janor 20:09
Yeah, it was about a seven year process. You know, it was, it was 90% done for many, many years. But you know, whatever, you’re going to put your name behind something and actually publish something and put it out on Amazon and other places you want to make sure. To make sure that it’s exactly it’s 100% there, not 90% there. But, you know, it’s just basically life, life lessons learned in through coaching and through business, all the things that we’re talking about. And the title of the book is, we, not me, in sports, business and life. And it’s all about, you know, trying to create that culture where, you know, everyone is focused on the team or team goals, Team objectives, as opposed to me, me, me, which, as I shared earlier. You see that in a lot of different places. And you know, even when we fall victim in social media, right? We’re posting things and seeing how many likes we’re going to get, and it’s all about, you know, that type of gratification, and we’re all guilty of that. It’s just the way things are today. But, but, you know, really trying to stress the the team concept and the book takes, you know, takes us through, takes the reader through a number of different stories and anecdotes. And, you know, the idea is to really try to inspire people to be better leaders, better coaches, better business owners and that type of thing. And it’s been, you know, through the through the book, I’ve had the opportunity to, you know, speak to different audiences and get in front of people. And it’s been really, really interesting. I would certainly anybody out there listening that’s maybe thought about it. I’d certainly encourage anyone to pursue that and and kind of put that out on the line there. Well,
Curt Anderson 21:37
congratulations, man. You know, I was, I admired a heck out of people that can run a marathon. I’m like, how do you run 26 miles? I admire people that can write a book. Because when you can sit down and knock down a book, that is not an easy task. I’m going to go here rich, back to your, you know, your you know baseball, uh, wonderful events, changing lives, just impacting young people. You’ve been in business for 20 years, and so John, I’m going to hit you with this question as well. I’m going a little bit off script. I don’t know if you guys knew this fact, this, this, here’s a stat for you guys. Four out of five businesses fail in the first five years. Four out of five businesses fail in the first five years. So you basically have a 20% survival chance. You’re like, why would anybody start a business? Right? And every five year block, it just goes down from there so rich you’ve survived four, five year cycles over 20 years. Like you’re you’re an anomaly, you’re in a you’re in a very tiny percentage that have survived for 20 years. What would you say has been you, and maybe you’ve touched on it when we first opened up the show. But what do you feel has been the real key to your success for 20 years? I know you probably take it for granted because, like, you’re just in the grind. What’s been the key for your 20 years of success? Yeah. I mean, the
Rich Janor 22:47
first thing that comes to mind with your question is just that failure is not an option, you know, with the whole assassination attempt and now the second one, and just listen to some of this and watching the news and everything like that, you know, you hear the person from the Secret Service, you know, we have a no fail mission, I mean secret service philosophy. I don’t know sure it’s the actual mission statement or whatever. I haven’t looked into it, but it’s a no fail mission where you know, failure is not an option. So having having that mindset, and then having the tenacity to make sure, you know, is really important. But you know, as I said earlier, and it bears repeating, it’s all about the people you surround yourselves with. A company of our scale. I mean, John, I think you said you have 60 plus employees now, congratulations. That’s massive growth. But I mean both John and I think would agree that it’s about the people you surround yourself with. If you’re a one person company, you can only get so far, because your time is your most valuable asset. Whether you’re an accountant or an attorney or whatever you are, or you’re doing lesson baseball lessons, you know your time is your most valuable asset. And if you’re a one person company, you’re very limited in what you can make, what you can do. So it’s all about the team you put around you, and that’s by far, you know, the most important thing.
Curt Anderson 24:02
Well, brilliant, brilliant advice, rich I and No, no surprise that you’ve been a success. And also just your fierce commitment to the success of your players, the kids, the events, the parents, just, you know your your enthusiasm is just contagious. John, I’m going to fire the same thing at you, dude, you’ve, you’ve been, you know, you’ve, also survived that for that 20 year cycle, what do you feel has been the key to your success?
John LaRoy 24:29
I think again, coming up from an athletic background, and not having the physical tools and being undersized and all that type of stuff, a little bit of chip on the shoulder, actually, a lot of that, and then just always having to to outwork other people, just to get a look right, or just to get Hey, that kid doesn’t have the potential, but he’s got the heart. You know, you hear that a lot in coach speak, and I recognize that as a coach, and always had a spot for those kids that you know. Weren’t going to go on and play college, but, you know, would outwork the competition, because those are the kids that you know, what this country’s founded on. Not everyone goes play d1 baseball, not everyone goes play Major League Baseball. But who is a kid that’s going to outwork you? And I just I, I want to be humble about it, but I also want to, you know, inspire other people too, that there’s nothing wrong with that. And then when you get into doing business, it is you, right. There is no politics, there is no daddy ball, there is no it’s on you, and if you are willing to put it in and put in the effort, put in the time, and then again, the most important part is surround yourself with good people, you know, and you’re not going to make every decision, the right decision, but the worst decision sometimes is indecision, right? So the procrastination to put it off till later is really just going to not only prohibit your success, but now, if you got a team now, you’re hurting their success, you’re impeding their ability to succeed and thrive, and that’s going to ultimately hurt the organization. So just having the ability to not be afraid to make a decision, even if it’s the wrong one, but then pivoting, adjust and evaluate and just continue to grow. Right? You know, the second you stop growing is the minute you start dying, and whatever you’re doing in life, you always want to grow. Wow, man. Phenomenal
Curt Anderson 26:24
advice from both you guys. I love it. Build the team. Surround yourself with just a wonderful, amazing, incredible people, and just be resilient. Be relentless, Rich. Let’s go here. We’re going to start winding down. I know you’re super busy just producing all these incredible, wonderful events that you put on for folks. Game Day USA. Where can folks find you? Where can they buy your book? What do you got there?
26:45
Yeah, so Game Day USA. We’re based here in Naperville, and have for many years. Have been for many years. Gamedayusa.com is our website where people can find all of our events and contact information, and then the we not me, book is, if you just go to Amazon and type in, we not me, you will, you will find it. And you know, certainly can, can grab a copy. Rich,
Curt Anderson 27:12
one last question. I’m going off script here. John, so So Rich baseball guy, through and through, got your book. Notre Dame. Guy, when you go up for a book signing, what’s your walk up song?
Rich Janor 27:26
You know, funny. You mentioned that. I don’t want to fall into the trap of talking about nd and the Irish too much, but there’s a brand new song that came out. I think the band is the high kings, and it’s, it’s just called glorio, G, l, O, R, i, o, and I’m trying. I’m not necessarily a technology guy, so I lately trying to figure out how I can get this as the ring tone on my phone. And I’ll probably have someone smarter than me figure that out, but that’s really great song that resonated with me lately, and like I said, I gotta figure out how to get it on the phone. Well,
Curt Anderson 28:01
awesome, man. Well, hey, we wish you just continued success. You Your family, your business, go Irish. We’re rooting on. Marcus Freeman, so John, any closing thoughts, words of wisdom that you want to share as we wind
John LaRoy 28:13
down? No, I just again want to thank rich. It’s been a while since I know you’re extremely busy. You got a lot going on, but thank you for your time, for coming on the show. Curt, thanks again for setting us up and being amazing, amazing host for us as usual. But yeah, love the support, love the partnership. I mean, again, this is almost 20 years in the making for us and for our team. And just want to say, Thanks Rich for for all your support and business throughout the years. Yeah,
Rich Janor 28:43
it’s been fun. It’s been fun. I enjoyed the honor with you guys, and let’s make the next meeting instead of zoom, we’ll make it at a restaurant or catch up that way. Absolutely
Curt Anderson 28:53
sounds like a plan. So as we close out again, check stop by apparel redefine. Do you have any questions? Reach out to John. Connect with him. On LinkedIn, reach out to Game Day USA. Connect with rich. Go to Amazon, grab that book if you have a coach in your life, or just, you know, he got some young people, great book to grab. And so we, we’re just super excited on when rich comes back to have a conversation with us. So Rich, hang out with us for one second. We appreciate you. We wish everybody an amazing, incredible rest of your day, and we’ll see you next week. You.